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Trophies Won by Dumbarton FC

The photos in this post were taken at the Dumbarton FC 150th anniversary Exhibition held in Dumbarton Library towards the end of last year.

The club’s biggest achievement was in being overall Champions of Scotland twice – shared with Rangers in 1891 and won outright the following season. See to the right of photo below:-

Trophies Won by Duumbarton FC 3

The rest of that information board relates to minor trophies, Charity Cups and the Stirlingshire Cup.  I took two photos of it since the angle wasn’t great for getting the whole board in:-

Trophies Won by Dumbarton FC 2

The Dunbartonshire Charity Cup was on display:-

Dunbartonshire Charity Cup

As was the Dumbartonshire Cup:-

Dumbartonshire Cup

The club won the Scottish Cup in 1883 and is one of the few whose names are on the actual trophy as opposed to plinths below it:-

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The Festival of Britain (St Mungo) Quaich was won in 1951. The picture below shows the Quaich and one of the mugs presented to the winning players:-

Festival of Britain Quaich and Mug

Festival of Britain Quaich inscription:-

Festival of Britain (St Mungo) Quaich

The Scottish Football League Second Division Trophy (1972):-

SFL Second Division Trophy (1972)

 

 

Dumbarton FC 150th Anniversary Exhibition

Dumbarton FC, the Sons of the Rock,  became 150 years old in December 2022. To mark the occasion various events were held over the year and a special set of strips was worn for the season.

There was also an exhibition held in Dumbarton Library featuring items from the club’s history. We visited it in November.

Letter of congratulation to Dumbarton FC from A J Cronin + Division 2 Winners Medal 1971-2:-

Letter to Dumbarton FC from A J Cronin + Division 2 Medal

Scottish Football League Second Division Championship Flag 1992 plus a winner’s medal for that campaign and ticket for the first game at The Rock in December 2000 :-

SFL Second Division Championship 1992

Scottish Football League Third Divison Flag Toggle 2009 and season tickets for 1972-3 and 2001-2:-

SFL Third Divison Flag Toggle 2009

Football Cards, Medals and Photo of Pavilion at Boghead, Dumbarton’s former ground :-

Football Cards, Medals and Photo of Boghead Pavilion.

Postcards of Boghead, football cards and medal:-

Postcards + Football Cards

Share Certificate, coasters and Civic Reception tickets:-

Share Certificate + Coasters etc

!884-5 season ticket, ticket for first floodlit game at Boghead and club badges:-

First Floodlight Game At Boghead

Letter to J F Donovan and more coasters:-

Letter To? J M Donovan

Parts from Boghead turnstile:-

Turnstile Parts

Turnstile and Diagram

Scotland’s Lost Clubs by Jeff Webb

Giving the Names You’ve Heard the Story They Own

Pitch, 2021, 254 p, including ii p Bibliography.

It is a little odd that the introduction to this book focuses on a football club that isn’t lost at all – has in fact gone from strength to strength in recent years – but that club is the pioneer of football in Scotland, Queen’s Park, without which the history of Scottish football would have been different, and perhaps (though this is an unlikely altered history) not have started at all.

Then there is a chapter on the setting up of the Scottish Football League – at the prospect of which and of the impending professional status which it portended Queen’s Park balked, only relenting in 1899 – and its history up till its merger with the SPL to form the present SPFL.

There follow chapters on individual lost clubs starting with the first World Champions from Scotland, Renton, and of Vale of Leven both of whose stories a Son of the Rock brought up a couple of so miles away knows quite well. These clubs were both in the end victims of that professionalism which Queen’s Park stood against for so long. The Vale’s name, though, did not disappear entirely. After an interregnum where Vale OCOBA (Old Church Old Boys’ Association) played on their Millburn Park ground it was revived when OCOBA became a Junior Football club. (I have mentioned Junior football’s separate status several times before.)

Like Renton and Vale of Leven, Third Lanark won the Scottish Cup more than once. Formed as the Third Lanarkshire Rifle volunteers their heyday was in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries but their demise due to a reckless/unscrupulous owner (delete as appropriate) in the 1960s – their last game was a heavy defeat against Dumbarton at Boghead – was one of the saddest and potentially avoidable of the losses discussed in this book.

Arthurlie never reached the heights of a Scottish Cup win but enjoyed many seasons in the SFL before the financial crisis of the late 1920s forced them to resign. They can not really be described as lost though, since they seamlessly joined the Junior’s ranks – with some early success.

Cambuslang were founder members of the SFL, ending a creditable fourth in its first season but finishing second bottom the next and not being re-elected. They also managed to reach the Scottish Cup final once, only to suffer the biggest final defeat in the competition’s history, losing 6-1 to Renton in 1888. Like so many others they fell prey to financial problems due to travel costs.

At one time the town of Helensburgh had no fewer than five football teams – Victoria, Merchants, Hermitage Former Boys, West End and Helensburgh FC but only the last of those (and that the third club of that name) ever played in the SFL – in the short-lived Division 3 in the mid-1920s. They were at the top by one point when the league was dissolved and that disappointment resulted in the club folding.

Edinburgh’s earliest officially formed football club, St Bernard’s, started life under the name Third Edinburgh Rifle Volunteers but soon so much of the soldiers’ time was taken up with football that discipline had begun to slip and the military stepped back. The committee then took its new name from St Bernard’s Well by the Water of Leith. The club won the Cup in 1895 during a decade that also saw them have their most sustained success in the top Division of the SFL. After failing a re-election they were never gain to reach such heights (despite winning the Second Division twice) and had to be wound up when a deceased director’s loan was called in by the executors in 1942, having to sell their home ground, the magnificently named Royal Gymnasium, to pay the debt.

King’s Park were a club from Stirling which never made it to the top Division, though once, in 1928, narrowly missed out on promotion. Their demise can be directly attributed to one Adolf Hitler, as their ground, the original Forthbank Stadium, was hit by one of only two bombs to land on Stirling in the entire Second World War, (both dropped by a bomber trying to lighten its load to get back to base.) The explosion ruined the north terracing and made a 30-foot crater in the pitch.

Cowlairs were formed in the railway works at Springburn in Glasgow. Though not regarded as a top club they were nevertheless founder members of the SFL. The club’s stay lasted only that first season, as financial mismanagement saw them suspended for a time and their pitch was not maintained. After a few years outside the SFL the new Second Division’s formation saw them admitted but their second-place finish was to be their best. After one more season they were not re-elected and with no other league willing to admit them, haemorrhaging players and money, their fate was sealed.

Abercorn were a team from Paisley who were founder members of the SFL but only ever had a total of three seasons in the top division and not much more than that in Division 2. Their demise was due to lack of a fixed ground (five in total from 1879-1919) resulting in them having nowhere to play when their landlords refused to renew their lease in 1919.

Airdrieonians were the longest surviving of the clubs covered in this book. Founded as Excelsior FC in 1878 (changing to Airdrieonians in 1881) their glory days were in the early 1920s, finishing second in the top Division no less than four times and winning the Scottish Cup in 1924. They also managed a European Cup Winners’ Cup appearance in 1992 due to losing to champions Rangers in the Cup Final that year but lost to Sparta Prague 3-1 on aggregate. Their demise was due to new stadium requirements for admission to the top flight to which they aspired. Since their quaint Broomfield ground wasn’t suitable for adaptation the debts incurred on building a new one and the loss of spectators while sharing Broadwood in the interim crippled them. They folded in 2002.

Leith Athletic lasted from 1887 till 1955. Like St Bernard’s, living in the shadow of Hearts and Hibs cannot have been easy. They finished fourth in their first season in the SFL in 1892 but never reached that height again. Most of their SFL existence was in the Second Division but post World War 2 they were placed in the ‘C’ Division (which included reserve teams to which they objected.) They were thrown out when they refused to fulfil fixtures, folding in 1955. Ironically the season after that the ‘C’ Division was wound up and the non-reserve teams absorbed into Division ‘B’.

Clydebank has had two clubs of that name in the SFL. The first had relative success in and around the war years of 1914-1918 with several seasons in the top flight. It was the Depression of the late 1920s which did for them. The second came after the Steedman brothers’ attempt to move East Stirlingshire to the town, merging with Clydebank Juniors as East Stirlingshire Clydebank and playing for a season at their Kilbowie Park, was quashed by a court ruling. The Steedmans then carried on at Kilbowie by forming Clydebank FC, who were voted in to the SFL a year later. This club had better success than the earlier one till the decline of the town’s economy (the shipyards and Singer’s sewing machine factory having closed) forced them to sell the ground. Seasons at Boghead and then Morton’s Cappielow saw spectator numbers fall off a cliff – mainly in protest at the moves. The club didn’t actually fold though. It was taken over by the new Airdrie United, set up following on from the demise of Airdrieonians, who had both the money and the ground to house them.

Dundee Wanderers, formed by a merger of two of Dundee’s oldest clubs, Wanderers and Strathmore, had only one season in the SFL and in it managed to suffer the biggest ever defeat in league football, 15-1 by Airdrieonians. They then had a few seasons of non-SFL league football at Clepington Park before the lease was snatched from under them by Dundee Hibernian (now called Dundee United.) In return for this treachery, Wanderers club members removed certain items of equipment from the park – including the small grandstand. Only the grass was let. Homeless for two years, they lost fans and money, and even at their new home in Lochee couldn’t survive.

Armadale had a decade in the Second Division after it was revived following the Great War but were another club which succumbed to the Great Depression, not having enough income to provide opponents with their match guarantee fee.

The original Edinburgh City formed as amateurs in 1928 and applied to join the SFL in 1931. Surprisingly they won the vote handsomely but life in the League as an amateur side – when Queen’s Park had the draw of playing at Hampden to entice the best players – was too difficult. Only twice did they not finish bottom of the pile. Post World War 2 they were assigned to the ‘C’ Division but moved to the Juniors in 1949. In 1955 they lost the lease of City Park and decided to stop playing football. Their name survived as a social club though, and was allowed to be taken over by Postal United in 1986. That club has since advanced to the SPFL. (However their permission to use the name has been revoked since this book was written.)

Gretna receives a somewhat extravagant 30 pages perhaps because its story is a classic rise and fall, both a potential encouragement and a warning. Formed after Word War 2, most of the club’s existence was spent playing in the English football system and in 1983 it became the first team based in Scotland to play in the FA Cup for nearly a century. It reached the First Round proper in 1990 and made a final appearance at that stage in 1993. Its success in the Northern Premier League would have meant much higher travelling costs and so application was made to the SFL, with two disappointments in 1993 and 1999 before succeeding on the demise of Airdrieonians in 2002. By this time millionaire Brooks Mileson had become Gretna’s owner. His backing meant the club went on a meteoric rise through the divisions, played in a Scottish Cup Final and made a UEFA Cup appearance. It was already beginning to fall apart when Mileson fell ill and it later turned out his fortune had evaporated. In his lifetime he had given money to or in various ways sponsored around 70 football clubs. His stewardship of Gretna, though, meant that a hitherto successful club existing within its means went under. Meteors do tend to burn out.

We end with portmanteau chapters containing brief overviews on clubs from the West of Scotland; Beith (in Ayrshire,) Dumbarton Harp, Galston (again Ayrshire,) Johnstone (by Paisley,) Linthouse (like Cowlairs connected to the Springburn railway works,) Northern (also from Springburn,) Port Glasgow Athletic, Thistle (South Glasgow): the South of Scotland; Mid-Annandale (Lockerbie,) Nithsdale Wanderers (Sanquhar,) Solway Star (Annan): and the East of Scotland; Lochgelly United, Bathgate, Bo’ness, Broxburn United, Clackmannan, Dykehead (Shotts,) and finally current clubs, Ayr United (merged from Ayr FC and Ayr Parkhouse,) Dundee Hibernians (Dundee United,) Peebles Rovers, Royal Albert (from Larkhall) who were the first team in Scotland to be awarded a penalty kick – which was scored by the improbably named James McLuggage – and Meadowbank Thistle (formerly an Edinburgh works side, Ferranti Thistle, but now Livingston FC.)

Some of the clubs mentioned above have not disappeared per se since they morphed into or merged to become Junior clubs or otherwise evolved as noted above. Clydebank’s fans formed a phoenix club (Clydebank) as did those of Gretna (Gretna 2008) while a new Leith Athletic was set up in 1996. With the movement of Junior clubs into the pyramid system all survivors have the opportunity to progress to the highest tiers once again.

Pedant’s corner:- On the inside front cover; “27 Mid-Annabelle” (Mid-Annandale.) Otherwise: “cities sprung up” (sprang up,) the text implies Queen’s Park created the passing game. I have read elsewhere that that honour belongs instead to Dumbarton FC, “played 22 matched” (matches,) “outside of (several times, just outside, no ‘of’,) attract (attract,) “the creation a Scottish league” (creation of a,) “had its application their join” (application to join,) “a very credible draw” (x 2, creditable,) “as pulled off something of a coup” (as they pulled off,) “were starting to be need” (no ‘be’ required,) “from the get-go” (get-go is a USian expression, ‘from the start’ is much more elegant,) “but that the AGM came around” (but when the AGM,) “they finished on the same points told as” (points total as,) “to not have” (not to have,) “seemed too be good” (seemed to be good.) In the East of Scotland section; Bathgate (ought to be 2: Bathgate with subsequent numbers in that section advanced by one,) “Shell oil industry” (shale oil,) “pull their resources” (pool,) “off of” (just ‘off’; no ‘of’.)

Oh, Hell

SP Hell.

I see the proposals for a reconstruction of the Scottish football leagues have advanced to the point they are now to be voted on.

I haven’t commented up to now as I’ve been resigned to gloom all season. The 4-3 at Falkirk and 3-0 at Morton did cheer me up, though.

The proposals would see a merger of the SPL and SFL with a top league of 12 clubs (as now; so no change at all!) The second tier will also have 12 clubs (an enlargement of 2.) The third tier will have 18 clubs (effectively a merger of Divs 2 and 3 of the SFL minus 2 clubs.) The fourth tier disappears (but there is a mooting of introducing relegation to/promotion from a pyramid below it.)

There is in addition to be a “split” after the top two Divs have played 22 games (home and away against each other) with the 24 clubs divided into three sections of 8,8 and 8 where again there will be home and away games against each member.

There is an air of indecent haste about this as it seems to be envisaged that this will start in season 2013-2014. That would mean changing the finishing post halfway through this season (and also effectively kybosh the play-offs for this year.)

As far as the top two “new” Divisions is concerned how is this different in essence from the SPL 2 which was shot down in flames about a year ago?

And I wonder how many promotion/relegation places will there be between the third and the second. Not enough I would suggest.

It all sounds to me remarkably like a way to hike Rangers up to tier 2 a year early. They will undoubtedly win Div 3 this season and I can see the argument running that they won their league; so deserve to be promoted. The Div 2 winners (Queen of the South?) would be going up to the second tier anyway.

In this regard it would be nice to have Rangers saying that if their promotion to the second tier in one go was advocated they would refuse to accept it – but I can’t see them making that refusal: even if they have described the plans as an abomination.

By all means have a merged league – provided there are equal voting rights across the Divisions. (Otherwise how long will it be before the top two Divisions vote away the lower completely?)

Very few fans, however, want to keep the present system where clubs play each other 4 times a season. The proposals do not really address this point. Under them 20 clubs will still be doing exactly that.*

The main trouble is that Rangers and Celtic are too dominant within the Scottish game. I have frequently said that unless and until the gate income is once again shared between the two competing clubs, along with more equal division of TV monies, no other club will have a hope in hell of challenging the big two.

I do know one thing though. Whatever and whenever league reconstruction happens Dumbarton will be demoted. That’s what always happens.

1922: third bottom Div 1. Three clubs relegated to adjust division sizes. Previously only two clubs had been relegated. It took us 50 years to get back up.

1975 : fifth bottom Div 1. Only the top 10 clubs stayed in the first tier. It only took us 8 years to get up to that level (for a brief one season visit.)

1994 : fifth bottom Div 1. Three Divisions rearranged to four, bottom five in Div 1 demoted to new Div 2. Promotion the next year saw us then have our worst season in living memory (and beyond) before tumbling down the leagues. 16 long years later we finally got back to Div 1.

Demoted
Under
Materiallly
Biased
Arbitrary
Regulation
Thrice
Over
Now

*Edited to add. The 24 “top” clubs will all play four times against at least three teams.

Ramsden’s? Cup

Yet another round of alphabet soup in Scottish football. Not only is the League Cup now to be called the Communities Cup but apparently the Challenge Cup (in which Dumbarton have the worst record of any of the teams which have ever competed for it; so don’t look for progress beyond the first round this time either) is now to be known as the Ramsden’s Cup.

Ramsden’s apparently have a presence in a lot of towns with SFL clubs and peddle financial services such as pawn-broking and payday loans.

Hmm. Not much of an inspiration, is it?

It’s East Stirlingshire, by the way, at home on 23rd July.

What? No Morton?

The Death of Scottish Football? 4.

I see the changes those in charge of the SPL wish to push through seem to be closer to coming to pass.

The only difference to what most fans have overwhelmingly rejected?

That the SPL 2 will have 12 teams instead of 10.

Is that not just entirely typical of the cynical nature of these proposals?

What could be the reason (the only reason?) for increasing the projected number of teams in the SPL 2 in this way? Surely it can only be to try to persuade the present SFL Div 1 clubs to vote for it.

It would be laughable if it weren’t so tragic, nor so transparent.

These bullies still appear to maintain that only a top ten is financially viable.

Well; it was tried before and found wanting. It will be so again.

With the same stale old suspects on display time after time with four games against the same opposition every year, not including possible cup ties, attendances will continue to fall, the “product” (the football on offer) continue to decline in quality – even the much vaunted Old Firm games, the last one I hear was very poor; I had not the slightest interest in watching it – and the attraction of the SPL to TV companies will wane. Then the top ten will be stuck in a deeper bind than they are now.

Here’s a thought. Why don’t they just cut their coat according to their cloth, balance their books and forget about trying to compete with the top European clubs? We, and they, live in a small country on Europe’s periphery. Scotland is no longer a football powerhouse. (That it once may have been is a historical accident.) It’s time the SPL, especially the Old Firm, came to terms with that.

Note we have no indication of what promotion/relegation arrangements there will be between the new expanded SPL and the rump SFL the changes will leave behind.

Rest assured the access to the new SPL from the SFL will be restricted. The SFL clubs will be left to wither on the vine.

The SPL 2 clubs may wither faster though.

Come on SFL. Tell them to stuff it.

The Death Of Scottish Football? 3.

I’ve posted about their sheer damned nerve before. Twice over in fact.

But now we see it in all its naked self interest.

These proposals are not to the benefit of Scottish football as a whole.

They would do nothing – absolute zero – to improve the national team’s efforts to qualify for major championships.

They would do nothing to further the development of young players – quite the reverse: their appearance in first teams would be much less likely.

Neither would the base of the game be widened and strengthened. It would almost certainly mean the demise of the current SFL clubs who have little chance of ever reaching Division 1, far less the SPL. By and large these clubs live within their means and on occasion turn up players whom the bigger clubs have missed. They also have dedicated fans (albeit in small numbers) who are passionate about their allegiances and would be lost to the game if their clubs were to go under.

Any clubs who aspire to SFL membership will not gain from this either as very shortly there wouldn’t be an SFL to aspire to. The new SPL2 won’t let the likes of Spartans in, you can be sure of that.

What the proposals might do is ensure that the Old Firm continue to receive the lion’s share of television exposure – and monies – and entrench the current imbalance that is the true source of Scottish football’s malaise. (Two teams win most of the competitions and the rest barely get a look in.)

They will also make sure that the SPL1 and 2 is in fact a closed shop.

The SPL says it has canvassed thousands of Scottish fans about these proposals. Well; nobody asked me.

A discussion on the fan site Pie and Bovril did direct me to a survey (http://www.surveymonkey.com) after the proposals were announced, but this isn’t connected to the SPL, I believe. Just in case it is I urge you all to access this and opt against anything similar to an SPL1 and 2.

And as for regionalisation below the SPL, that would largely deprive me of the chance to watch my team as I no longer live in its area. At the moment I can attend lots of away games; under regionalisation that would probably change. From being a frequent attender at matches, I would become more or less a stranger to Scottish football.

The suggestion that SPL reserve teams should play in the regionalised league below SPL1/2 is simply outrageous. They had a reserve league of their own and disbanded it. Let them set it up again or else loan their reserves out to gain experience. Do not sully a totally different competition with teams you can’t be bothered to cater for otherwise. Foisting them on someone else is more than high-handed. It smacks of bullying.

I can’t tell you the despair that these proposals have engendered in me. Quite simply, without the prospect of promotion and relegation throughout the Scottish football system – I am by no means against a pyramid coming into being provided that there is a suitable league for demoted SFL clubs to play in – but, remember, for most of those located in West and Central Scotland there isn’t at the moment – then there is little point in carrying on.

The main things that would free up the current arrangements and lessen the staleness that abounds are either

1. immediately increasing the available promotion spots from SFL1 to the SPL, or

2. getting rid of playing teams four times a season (in other words increasing the size of the various divisions.)

That last would probably mean only one SPL league and two SFL divisions.

I do hope the teams at the top of the SFL Div 1 won’t be seduced by the mere possibility of games against the ugly sisters that they will go for this.

In fact, they’re probably going to do better in attendance terms if they are doing reasonably well in the SFL than if they were struggling in the SPL.

The response of the SFL to all this ought to be, “Two words; seven letters; three of them ‘f’.”

Dumbarton 1-3 Brechin City

League goals against predictor:- 150

SFL Div 2, The Rock, 25/9/10

League goals for predictor:- 18.

What can you say?

All but two of the teams in the league played, only one win and one draw to show for it. Add in a humungous negative goal difference and the fact that we’re at the bottom of the division again.

We’re doomed.

Alloa Athletic 0-0 Dumbarton

League goals against predictor:- 150

SFL Div 2, Recreation Park, 18/9/10

League goals for predictor:- 18.

Chalk and cheese.

We were unrecognisable from the team that succumbed at New Bayview. The defence looked as if they had talked to each other. We ran, blocked, covered and played for each other.

Mind you we were also unrecognisable as a team that would score a goal; but first things first, a little at a time. I think the Alloa keeper only had two saves to make and only one of them troubled him – and that was by accident.

Michael White had one good and one excellent save for us and handled well throughout which helped the defence stand firm, I’m sure. If Stephen Grindlay gets the nod next week it’s a disgrace.

Alloa were much the better team and had much more of the ball but couldn’t really break us down. Chappie had us set out in what approximated a 3-5-1-1 with Scott Chaplain just behind Ross Campbell. At least it made us difficult to beat.

30 more of these and we’ll end up with 34 points.

It it keeps us up, fine, but Arbroath finished last season with 40.

Dumbarton 1-0 Stenhousemuir

League goals against predictor:- 210

SFL Div 2, The Rock, 11/9/10

League goals for predictor:- 18.

I thought I’d conquered it. That I’d given this season up for dead. It’s been a fortnight since New Bayview after all.

But there it was at three this afternoon. That small wriggling worm of hope.

And finally getting round to checking the score at 4.40, the nagging worry.

1-0, but time not up. Stenny would equalise, or worse.

Then the sending off. Was it a penalty?

Agonising seconds waiting for the final score.

A WIN! Three points!

And a clean sheet. How on Earth did that happen?

We’re not even bottom of the table any more.

It seems Michael White was in goal. About time.

No Ben Gordon in the starting line-up. He’s been poor this season it has to be said. Maybe giving him the captaincy wasn’t a good idea. Was Chissie in central defence as this team list suggests?

The result is welcome but it’s not enough for me to change the goals for and against predictors though.

And since son number two now has a flat in Alloa, within walking distance of the ground, I’ll be there next Saturday.

(I would have gone anyway.)

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